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Saturday, 23 August 2008
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Hiatus
Saying that I'm going on hiatus when I haven't posted in a little over two weeks may be a little redundant, but I'm still giving you a heads-up. I'm officially back at work, and since I'm teaching two very demanding subjects and have several pressing matters going on outside work (and a family, who, I think, deserve more than the label of "pressing matter"), I'm simply not going to have much time to post. Facebooking and MySpacing just take up less time than blogging on Xanga.
Plus, at least so far, I can access Facebook from work.
Take care!
Thursday, 07 August 2008
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The Practical Jonah 1:1-3
Edit. (And thanks to Elessar_Telemnar for his translation and commentary).
Okay. First of all, let's set a couple of things straight. As Elessar mentions in his commentary below, the book of Jonah may or may not be a literal historical record. We can debate about that, but the messages of Jonah remain the same whether it's allegorical or hisorical. I do believe that Jonah is a historical person because he is mentioned in 2 Kings, which is a historical book, but he wouldn't have been the only spiritual leader to use a parable or two in his prophecy.
Disclaimer number two: Let's get it straight here and now that it doesn't matter if it was a whale or a "great fish God created for this purpose." Correct me if I'm wrong, but, 1) I don't think the Hebrews had a complex taxonomical system for giant sea creatures, and 2) I don't think Jonah would have been an expert on that system if it did exist.
Okay. Here we go. It turns out that Jonah 1:1-10 is a pretty long study. I'm going to shorten it to 1-3. Next time, I'll do 4-9. This is in the attempt to stick to more of a "digest" format to accomodate busy lives (and, hopefully, not turn off A.D.D. readers like myself). Anyway, here it is.
1 And it happened that the word of the Lord came to Jonah[1], son of Amittai[2] saying:
2 Arise(!)[3], go(!)and speak (!) against it because their wickedness has ascended before me.[4] 3 And Jonah rose to flee from the face of the Lord towards a distant port[5]and went down to Joffa[6] and found a ship bound for a distant port and paid for his passage and went down in it in order to go to a distant port from the face of the Lord.[7]
[1] Name means “dove”. There is a large amount of debate on whether or not these events occurred or not. I think that it is more meaningful as a story than as a historical event, but everyone has their own opinion. Making it a historical event robs the story of it’s fantastic-ness, because if it is a historical event then everything must be plausible. Seems better to me to find the truths conveyed by the story rather than make it conform to “fact”.
[2] Name means “my truth”. It is possible that “son of my truth” is an indication of status or position rather than parentage.
[3] The parenthetical exclamation point indicates emphatic imperative.
[4] Or “has risen up to my face”.
[5] This word is commonly translated as a proper noun – Tarshish – but the word literally means “a distant port”. It is possible, as some have suggested, that it refers to a port in Spain (Tyrian sailors are known to have traveled as far as Britian), but I prefer to leave it open.
[6] Near modern Tel Aviv.
[7] The idea here is based on the belief that deities are local. If Jonah wants to flee from the face of the Lord (i.e. the Lord’s presence), the best thing to do is get as far from the land of Israel as possible. Important things to note: (1) Jonah is not fleeing the assignment per se but God’s presence, (2) Jonah’s choice to flee by sea indicates complete disobedience as Nineveh is in the east and the sea is to the west, and (3) the choice of boat indicates desperation because the sea was generally feared by the Hebrew people. The slower but safer choice would have been to join a caravan, but Jonah needed to escape fast.
We know the basic story here, and the commentary reenforces it. God emphatically ordered Jonah to go to Nineveh to prophecy (speak against it) because of their wickedness, and Jonah went quickly in the other direction.
There are a couple of things to point out here.
For one thing, as Elessar indicates, the sea was generally feared by the Hebrews. However, not only did Jonah choose the sea over a land route; he chose to sail a very long way. This was both more dangerous and more expensive. In addition to showing the depth of Jonah's disobedience, it shows him using his money (which was considerable enough to buy passage on a long voyage) in active disobedience of God.
The main point I wanted to make, however, is that this passage shows the depth and breadth of God's compassion for, and willingness to commune with, all of humanity. Nineveh was the most important city in Assyria and would soon be the capital of the Assyrian empire (which would eventually conquer and enslave Israel, the northern kingdom). The Assyrians, to paraphrase the prophet Nahum, were lecherous and cruel. They were hated by the Israelites. In every way, they were the enemy. Yet this is where God told Jonah to go and prophecy. None that this was not to be a condemnation. This was to be a warning. That implies a willingness to forgive. As we find out later, that's one of the main reasons Jonah didn't go. Like much of Israel, he didn't want Gentiles, and especially enemies of God, to receive God's blessing and forgiveness. It's very easy under the current conditions of American society to forget that God loves everyone and has tried on several occasions to save those who have cursed and insulted him - most frequently his own people.
1. Think of a person or group of people who, for whatever reason, you just can't stand. What if God ordered you to act on his love for him/her/them? Guess what? He has.
2. Jonah was so wrapped up in his own hypocrisy that he disobeyed God rather than give God's warning to the enemies of Israel. This is a practical example of how hatred and prejudice can actively lead one into sin and hinder the breadth of the Gospel's impact. Don't let it happen to you.
Monday, 04 August 2008
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The Practical Jonah
I'm going to try to do another Bible study, if only to hash out my thoughts. I'll post my first actual study later, but today I'm going to post the scripture. Yesterday (8/3) in Sunday School, we went through the entire book of Jonah. I was reminded that it contains a wealth of practical lessons, both on the surface and, more often, beneath it. So, here is Jonah. (I know you could look it up on Biblegateway or something, and I still recommend you do that, but I'm posting it here as well for easy reference. Feel free to post any comments you have right now.
Jonah 1
Jonah Flees From the LORD
1 The word of the LORD came to Jonah son of Amittai: 2 "Go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it, because its wickedness has come up before me."
3 But Jonah ran away from the LORD and headed for Tarshish. He went down to Joppa, where he found a ship bound for that port. After paying the fare, he went aboard and sailed for Tarshish to flee from the LORD.
4 Then the LORD sent a great wind on the sea, and such a violent storm arose that the ship threatened to break up. 5 All the sailors were afraid and each cried out to his own god. And they threw the cargo into the sea to lighten the ship.
But Jonah had gone below deck, where he lay down and fell into a deep sleep. 6 The captain went to him and said, "How can you sleep? Get up and call on your god! Maybe he will take notice of us, and we will not perish."7 Then the sailors said to each other, "Come, let us cast lots to find out who is responsible for this calamity." They cast lots and the lot fell on Jonah.
8 So they asked him, "Tell us, who is responsible for making all this trouble for us? What do you do? Where do you come from? What is your country? From what people are you?"
9 He answered, "I am a Hebrew and I worship the LORD, the God of heaven, who made the sea and the land."
10 This terrified them and they asked, "What have you done?" (They knew he was running away from the LORD, because he had already told them so.)
11 The sea was getting rougher and rougher. So they asked him, "What should we do to you to make the sea calm down for us?"
12 "Pick me up and throw me into the sea," he replied, "and it will become calm. I know that it is my fault that this great storm has come upon you."
13 Instead, the men did their best to row back to land. But they could not, for the sea grew even wilder than before. 14 Then they cried to the LORD, "O LORD, please do not let us die for taking this man's life. Do not hold us accountable for killing an innocent man, for you, O LORD, have done as you pleased." 15 Then they took Jonah and threw him overboard, and the raging sea grew calm. 16 At this the men greatly feared the LORD, and they offered a sacrifice to the LORD and made vows to him.
17 But the LORD provided a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was inside the fish three days and three nights.
Jonah 2
Jonah's Prayer
1 From inside the fish Jonah prayed to the LORD his God. 2 He said:
"In my distress I called to the LORD,
and he answered me.
From the depths of the grave [a] I called for help,
and you listened to my cry.3 You hurled me into the deep,
into the very heart of the seas,
and the currents swirled about me;
all your waves and breakers
swept over me.4 I said, 'I have been banished
from your sight;
yet I will look again
toward your holy temple.'5 The engulfing waters threatened me, [b]
the deep surrounded me;
seaweed was wrapped around my head.6 To the roots of the mountains I sank down;
the earth beneath barred me in forever.
But you brought my life up from the pit,
O LORD my God.7 "When my life was ebbing away,
I remembered you, LORD,
and my prayer rose to you,
to your holy temple.8 "Those who cling to worthless idols
forfeit the grace that could be theirs.9 But I, with a song of thanksgiving,
will sacrifice to you.
What I have vowed I will make good.
Salvation comes from the LORD."10 And the LORD commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land.
Jonah 3
Jonah Goes to Nineveh
1 Then the word of the LORD came to Jonah a second time: 2 "Go to the great city of Nineveh and proclaim to it the message I give you."
3 Jonah obeyed the word of the LORD and went to Nineveh. Now Nineveh was a very important city—a visit required three days. 4 On the first day, Jonah started into the city. He proclaimed: "Forty more days and Nineveh will be overturned." 5 The Ninevites believed God. They declared a fast, and all of them, from the greatest to the least, put on sackcloth.
6 When the news reached the king of Nineveh, he rose from his throne, took off his royal robes, covered himself with sackcloth and sat down in the dust. 7 Then he issued a proclamation in Nineveh:
"By the decree of the king and his nobles:
Do not let any man or beast, herd or flock, taste anything; do not let them eat or drink. 8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth. Let everyone call urgently on God. Let them give up their evil ways and their violence. 9 Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish."10 When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened.
Jonah 4
Jonah's Anger at the Lord 's Compassion
1 But Jonah was greatly displeased and became angry. 2 He prayed to the LORD, "O LORD, is this not what I said when I was still at home? That is why I was so quick to flee to Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity. 3 Now, O LORD, take away my life, for it is better for me to die than to live."
4 But the LORD replied, "Have you any right to be angry?"
5 Jonah went out and sat down at a place east of the city. There he made himself a shelter, sat in its shade and waited to see what would happen to the city. 6 Then the LORD God provided a vine and made it grow up over Jonah to give shade for his head to ease his discomfort, and Jonah was very happy about the vine. 7 But at dawn the next day God provided a worm, which chewed the vine so that it withered. 8 When the sun rose, God provided a scorching east wind, and the sun blazed on Jonah's head so that he grew faint. He wanted to die, and said, "It would be better for me to die than to live."
9 But God said to Jonah, "Do you have a right to be angry about the vine?"
"I do," he said. "I am angry enough to die."10 But the LORD said, "You have been concerned about this vine, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight. 11 But Nineveh has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that great city?"
Friday, 01 August 2008
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The Deacon
As I mentioned in a recent comment on Krissy's site, I may soon be up for consideration on the deacon board at my church.
I found this out when I went to talk to my Sunday school teacher (the head of the deacon board), and it was later verified by my pastor. I originally went to talk to them because I have recently begun to feel my call to the ministry (long dormant due to a crisis of faith in college) stirring again, and I wanted to figure out where in the church I could serve. I was thinking Sunday school teacher, youth leader, something along those lines. When I found this out, I was momentarily shell-shocked.
I immediately begain to ask how the deacon board "worked" at my church. I honestly didn't know a lot about it, or the men on it. I wasn't even sure that my teacher was the head. All I really remembered about deacons were the ominous old deacon board (essentially the board of directors) at my church growing up. That idea didn't appeal to me at all.
I also remembered a short personal study, spurred by a conversation in my NT Greek class at Howard Payne, about what a deacon was really supposed to be - and why the term was separated from "elder" in the New Testament.
I won't go into a deep theological definition, but my opinion is that a deacon (from the Greek diakonos) essentially serves (waits on) the church members and helps the pastor with tasks that he (not being omniscient) can't perform on his own. Usually, this is general service, visitation, and a few aspects of church administration. So, essentially, deacons are servant leaders.
What do you think? Based on your experience and/or study, what is the Biblical function of a deacon (or deaconess)?
Tuesday, 22 July 2008
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The Dark Knight (No Spoilers)
Well, I just saw the movie. Most probably knew that I would. I like comics. Batman is my second favorite superhero. Batman Begins gave me hope in the franchise again. So I saw the movie. My prognosis?
It was good.
As I said to the friend I went with, I'm not sure I can say it was better than Batman Begins. I'm not sure I can say it wasn't, either. The way I did it was to compare the movies to two classic (and literary) novels. Batman Begins was, compared to this movie, relatively simple in its formula. It was a well-made, solid movie that renewed my faith not only in the franchise, but in the superhero movie industry, which I thought had become tarnished with bloated mainstream extravaganza-fests like the third X-Men and Spider-Man movies (I know Spider-Man 3 came out later, but you get my point). It was like Dracula. It defined the Gothic nature of its core character and stayed truer to its source than any other superhero movie has done. Any other one. It was a foundation.
And The Dark Knight?
The Dark Knight is more like Stephen King's It. Before you knock me for equating the two books (It and Dracula), I would first remind you that this is not necessarily an equation, and I would second recommend that you read them both and then look at the impact both have had on culture. It helped redefine the horror novel. It is also one of the main reasons that many people now have an irrational fear of clowns (the Joker is another, and the fact that both works have at their center sadistic figures masquerading as clowns is probably the main treason that It is ocurred to me as an appropriate comparison). The Dark Knight will help to redefine the superhero movie and pave the way for what I think will be the genre's pinnacle - next year's Watchmen, based on the most literary graphic novel ever written, and the only one to be called a masterpiece by literateurs and fanboys alike.
But I digress.
Dracula is a classic of Gothic literature, but it was not that genre's pinnacle, and a lot of people don't consider Gothic literature to be that good any way. It is a revolutionary moder fantasy/horror novel. But that's just one niche in the multi-faceted world of modern pop culture. Neither of these works are epic, or even great. Neither is The Dark Knight. As I said before, The Dark Knight was good just as Batman Begins was good. I mean, let's face it - these are still movies based on comic books. This is not Schindler's List. This is not Ben-Hur. This is not even The Lord of the Rings, Titanic or Brokeback Mountain. It is a superhero movie. Not even actors of the caliber of Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, and Michael Caine can keep this movie from being merely good. But there is one aspect of this film that is great, and may even possibly be epic.
That aspect is the aforementioned Joker, portrayed most excellently by the late, great Heath Ledger.
I knew that Ledger was a great actor after I saw Brokeback Mountain. But there were other great actors and actresses in that movie who also had great material to work with. It was an all-around great film, written by a great author (Larry McMurtry) and based on good source material. Ledger didn't carry that movie. He carried The Dark Knight. He kept the movie from just being okay. (This, remember, is coming from a Batman fan). I will not elaborate on exactly why he was an excellent Joker. You will be able to read numerous reviews about that. I will just say that he played the most iconic villain in comic book history with a fearlessness that was exactly appropriate to the character in question. Just like the Joker, Ledger, in this role, was a chaotic force of nature. As the Joker says to Batman at one point, he was "an unstoppable force."
Case in point. There is a point in the movie in which the Joker is not wearing make-up. I have promised no spoilers, so I will not explain. But I will say that, at this point in the movie, the thought that occurs is not "Hey, that's Heath Ledger!" It's "Hey, that's the Joker!" Ledger immersed himself in this character, and he didn't just steal all the scenes he was in. He stole the entire movie. I thought perhaps that he'd be awarded a posthumous Oscar because of his work in this role in combination with the tragedy of his personal life. I now hope he receives the award based solely on his merit as an actor.
I will finish with this thought. When Jack Nicholson portrayed the Joker in Burton's Batman (a great portrayal, and the perfect one for that movie), there was no tragedy in the fact that the character died (sorry if no one's seen the movie - I said no spoilers, but I was talking about TDK). The movie was self-contained. There should have been no sequels. There was no need for more Nicholson as Joker. I think that, after The Dark Knight, there will be no other villain who can stand in Ledger's Joker's purple suit. The closest one would have been Two-Face, but even Two-Face has a gimmick. The Joker is not defined by gimmicks. Only the Joker would have been able to carry another Batman movie. Now, I am convinced, the only man who could have played the part in our generation is dead. That is indeed a tragedy. It is an insignificant tragedy compared to the fact that Ledger has been lost as a friend and a father, but it is a tragedy nonetheless.
And it means that the next Batman movie, if there is another, will have to be good on its own merit. Otherwise, it will go the way so many other superhero franchises have gone: straight down the drain.
The Dark Knight: B
Heath Ledger: A+
Saturday, 12 July 2008
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Jesus and Uncle Sam
For those of you who read my Facebook note, this is the same post.
I like Tony's last note, and I heartily agree (for those of you who don't know Tony, here's a link to his note). I recently heard someone ask why there are 50 candidates for Miss America and only two viable candidates (Teddy Roosevelt notwithstanding) for president. In good conscience, I can't vote for either major candidate this year on several counts, many of which are shared by both. This is a fact which I know will greatly annoy several of my loved ones.
I think it's ridiculous that this means I'm "throwing my vote away," but that doesn't mean I disagree. However (side rant), I refuse to accept that a vote that's not for one is automatically a vote for the other - simple numbers refute the notion as a logical fallacy. The point is, I'm going to vote for the candidate I think is best, regardless of whether every vote "really counts." This is going to require more reserach than usual on my part (oh no, an educated voter!), but I'm not going to compromise my convictions because the current political system is inadequate for true democracy. I think that my allegience to Christ should take precedent over my allegience to a political party or even my country (which, according to some anti-Obama-nites, is at stake).
So there.
Wow, I didn't mean to rant that long. That's not even what I was originally going to write about.It feels good to get it off my chest, though.
No, that would be the immigration debate.
Immigration is a topic I've been pondering quite a bit lately. My misgivings about border control and other issues in the political spotlight are why I'm not marked "conservative" on my personal information. This excerpt from an old(ish) article by James Pinkerton of TCSDaily.com puts it well:
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"The notion that all, everywhere, are equal in God's eyes is deep in Christianity; in Galatians 3:28, Paul declares, 'There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.' More than any other Christian church, the Catholics -- the word itself is derived from the Greek katholikos: 'about the whole' -- have embraced the idea of a single unitary world church, and held on to it, for 2000 years. Meanwhile, other great religions, such as Judaism, Hinduism and Buddhism, have made little attempt to proselytize beyond their traditional group of adherents..."So the Catholic Church is noteworthy for its commitment to open borders, as befits an organization headquartered in Europe, yet with an ambitious presence in every country in the world. And [Los Angeles's Roger Cardinal] Mahony, who leads the largest archdiocese in the US, has said that he and his priests will disobey any restrictive new laws that might emerge from Congress; as the Cardinal said to ABC News on May 16, 'The law of Christ -- welcome the strangers in your midst -- is a higher law than the law of the House.' "
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There you have it. The promise of broken hypothetical laws on the basis of Scripture. This, by the way, is something I think we should see more of...not necessarily written laws, but definitely some of the more subtle, unspoken (social) ones. But I digress.It may seem like I'm all for open borders, but the fact is, I'm not necessarily in agreement with the Cardinal. I'm truly undecided. While I'm sure there are other verses that can be used in favor or in opposition of open, or at least more relaxed, borders, I'm not overly familiar with any of them. There are also contextual ramifications to consider: Are there any side effects of amnesty or lenient border control that would be condemned by scripture? Are there details regarding the historical context in which the scriptures were written that should be brought to bear on this issue?
Really, I guess, I just want your opinion. I'd also like either your logic behind it or a well-explained scriptural or historical reference (preferably both) that supports it, as well. Let your voice be heard.
Tuesday, 08 July 2008
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Currently Reading
Jane Eyre (Penguin Classics)
By Charlotte Brontë
see relatedOh, What a Fickle Web we Weave
You know what? It's campaign season. I've got better things to rant about than the implications of inter-denominational differences. My basic point isn't even...coherent, really. It was just an excuse for me to do some research. I can do that on my own, though. I know what I believe, and I have a scriptural basis for it. That's all that matters to me.
I'm still on my whole "disillusionment with rich Christians" thing, though...anybody ever heard of a writer named Ronald Slider? I've got a book he wrote on the Christian's responsibility to care for, basically, the "widows and orphans" of the world. I might post some ideas here, but I'll ask a simple question for now.
Sum up in a phrase or two your opinion about the Christian "responsibility" to care for those who suffer from hunger, poverty, and general want.
Monday, 07 July 2008
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Currently Gaming
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
By Nintendo
see relatedA Funny Story
First of all, this is not the post foreshadowed in my previous entry. I assume the title gave that away. Second, even though this is my first official "day off" this summer (woohoo!), I'm actually going to be here by myself most of the day tomorrow, so that's when I'll probably tackle the denomination issue.
Third, here's the story:
A while back, my brother-in-law, Zachary, who is something of a ladies' man, taught my son a cute, somewhat cliche' pick-up line. You take a packet of sugar, show it to a girl, and say, "Excuse me, you dropped your name tag." Kyler has actually done this on a couple of occasions, I think.
Yesterday, we had a feaux (sp?) Father's Day dinner at T.G.I. Fridays, since my father-in-law, Steve, was out of town on the real Father's Day. Kyler said he needed to use the restroom (potty training is going well, by the way), and his Aunt Kate offered to take him. They came back from the restroom and sat down, and Kate proceeded to relate the punchline of my story.
Apparently, when they walked in, Kyler stopped and pointed at something on the ground. "Look, Aunt Kate," he said. "You dropped your name tag."
It was a condom wrapper.
Thursday, 03 July 2008
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Currently Reading
Mossflower (Redwall, Book 2)
By Brian Jacques
see relatedA Feeler
If I were to take the time to write a blog about the denomination of the Christian church, who would care to read and comment? I will ensure that it is researched and thoughtful, not just a rant or a ramble. That said, it may be a few days...but since I'm done with summer school, it will happen...if there's enough interest, that is.
Wednesday, 04 June 2008
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Currently Reading
The Amber Spyglass (His Dark Materials, Book 3)
By Philip Pullman
see relatedThe Worst Dream Ever
The Worst Dream Ever
Theme of the Week: The Good News Under Wraps
Thursday, June 5Key Bible Verse: Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment (Jude 23). Bonus Reading: 2 Timothy 2:1-13
During World War II, Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller headed the German Confessing Church movement, which opposed Nazism.
In a recurring nightmare, he saw Hitler standing before the divine judgment seat. Jesus came off his throne, put his arm around Hitler's shoulders, and sorrowfully asked, "Adolf! How could you have done the incredibly cruel, evil things you did?" Hitler answered, "Because no one ever told me about your love for me and what you did for me."
"At that point," Niemöller recalled, "I'd wake up in a cold sweat, because in all my meetings with Hitler, I'd never said anything like 'My Führer! Do you know how much Jesus loves you? That he gave himself up to crucifixion to save you? Do you realize that if you were the only person who ever lived, his love is so great that he'd have come into the world and died just for you?'"
What might have been different for Adolf Hitler and the world had Martin Niemöller carried out the Great Commission?
We dare not judge him, since we've all failed to testify to Christ's salvation on occasions when we sensed we should. But we need to remind ourselves every day that all who take Jesus' commands seriously must witness.
—Tony Campolo in Letters to a Young Evangelical
My Response: If I'm serious about witnessing, I'll …
Thought to Apply: The church is under orders. Evangelistic inactivity is disobedience. —John Stott (British pastor)
Thought to Apply: God is not saving the world; it is done. Our business is to get men and women to realize it. —Oswald Chambers (British teacher & chaplain)
Adapted from Letters to a Young Evangelical (Basic Books, 2006) by permission.
Copyright © 2008 by the author or Christianity Today International/Men of Integrity magazine.
Click here for reprint information on Men of Integrity.
May/June 2008, Vol. 11, No. 3Preview of next topic: Inter-denominational Lines; How Significant Are They?
Last year, a person whose opinion I hold in high regard (let's call him Friend 1) said something to me that I've been pondering ever since. We were discussing Mormonism and, the current FLDS tragedies notwithstanding, how "good people" Mormons generally are. I'd recently become close friends with a Mormon (Friend 2), and we'd swapped some theology, so, for the first time, I realized two paradoxical things: how far out some of their ideas really are, and how logical they seem to be. (I'll interject to cliched truisms here: You can't get to heaven by being a "good person," and Logic and truth are not synonyms.) However, we both came down to one thing - belief in Jesus and his sole power to save the human soul. When I told Friend 1 this story, he said (I paraphrase), But you don't believe in the same Jesus, so he's still in the wrong.
I'm not posting here to defend Mormonism or to proclaim its right to be called a denomination of the Christian faith, because what Friend 1 said is true. Friend 2 believes that Jesus is a created being, that the Godhead is composed of three distinct entities, and that, therefore, Jesus is not God. But following this line of thought...
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